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		<title>Comment on Publishing and Being There by open mute at seth keen/net-video</title>
		<link>https://andrewmurphie.org/blog/?p=17#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>open mute at seth keen/net-video</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 06:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] located the open mute website through Andrew Murphie&#8217;s blog Adventures in Jutland. The about on open mute:  OpenMute is a web resource project aiming to support cultural practice in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] located the open mute website through Andrew Murphie&#8217;s blog Adventures in Jutland. The about on open mute:  OpenMute is a web resource project aiming to support cultural practice in [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paper, Pixels and the Body by Famous Inventors</title>
		<link>https://andrewmurphie.org/blog/?p=16#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Famous Inventors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Famous Inventors&lt;/strong&gt;

Famous Inventors</description>
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		<title>Comment on Paper, Pixels and the Body by Publishing and Being There &#171; adventures in jutland</title>
		<link>https://andrewmurphie.org/blog/?p=16#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Publishing and Being There &#171; adventures in jutland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my previous discussion about new forms of embodiment in relation to networks and computers more relevant - to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] my previous discussion about new forms of embodiment in relation to networks and computers more relevant - to [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paper, Pixels and the Body by CCAP Research Hub &#187; Blog Archive &#187; OpenMute - Print-on-Demand and Network Distribution</title>
		<link>https://andrewmurphie.org/blog/?p=16#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>CCAP Research Hub &#187; Blog Archive &#187; OpenMute - Print-on-Demand and Network Distribution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] side of things very interesting). They also arguably make not only for new social forms, but for a new kind of social (so are crucial to consider both in terms of social and artistic innovation). So we need to think [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] side of things very interesting). They also arguably make not only for new social forms, but for a new kind of social (so are crucial to consider both in terms of social and artistic innovation). So we need to think [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paper, Pixels and the Body by Roughtheory.org &#187; The Embodiment of Reading in the Age of Its Digitial Distributability</title>
		<link>https://andrewmurphie.org/blog/?p=16#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Roughtheory.org &#187; The Embodiment of Reading in the Age of Its Digitial Distributability</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Adventures in jutland has a nice post up on the embodied experience of text mediated by books and digital publication. A couple of highlights: Yet I’m also wondering about our body/our feelings in relation to pixels - how does that side of things play out? The problem is perhaps one of re-embodying our relation to text - to words and images - differently. It takes time. It doesn’t happen all at once, but it’s happening. And although we can talk about the rights and wrongs of it, it’s not something we can resist. This also had to happen with paper and print. It has to happen for each of us. As individuals (over a certain age perhaps) our attachment to books began early. Like a lot of people, I remember the first times I stayed awake in bed reading because a book. Here was something I could hold, more than that, an object that set up the world of my body and its sensations completely differently. It seemed to give me its entire attention - it “looked back at me” - precisely because it did close me in on my own world (not that different from a laptop really). I also remember the books my grandmother used to buy me. My grandmother (who came from a long line of Welsh school teachers) used to buy me “classics”, often leather (or at least pseudo leather) bound and yes, I can remember how they looked, their feel. I also remember, when a graduate student of literature, finishing Hardy’s Jude the Obscure, which has a peculiarly sad ending, and getting so angry with the book - the physical object - that I threw it against a wall. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Adventures in jutland has a nice post up on the embodied experience of text mediated by books and digital publication. A couple of highlights: Yet I’m also wondering about our body/our feelings in relation to pixels - how does that side of things play out? The problem is perhaps one of re-embodying our relation to text - to words and images - differently. It takes time. It doesn’t happen all at once, but it’s happening. And although we can talk about the rights and wrongs of it, it’s not something we can resist. This also had to happen with paper and print. It has to happen for each of us. As individuals (over a certain age perhaps) our attachment to books began early. Like a lot of people, I remember the first times I stayed awake in bed reading because a book. Here was something I could hold, more than that, an object that set up the world of my body and its sensations completely differently. It seemed to give me its entire attention - it “looked back at me” - precisely because it did close me in on my own world (not that different from a laptop really). I also remember the books my grandmother used to buy me. My grandmother (who came from a long line of Welsh school teachers) used to buy me “classics”, often leather (or at least pseudo leather) bound and yes, I can remember how they looked, their feel. I also remember, when a graduate student of literature, finishing Hardy’s Jude the Obscure, which has a peculiarly sad ending, and getting so angry with the book - the physical object - that I threw it against a wall. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can we survive dynamic, networked thought? Networked perceptions? The blurring of thought, perceptions and actions in dynamic networks? by ibbertelsen</title>
		<link>https://andrewmurphie.org/blog/?p=12#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>ibbertelsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you like to say more? I don't know much Arendt although I do know she worried about the blurring of work and labour (I guess Agamben would say the blurring of zoe and bios - although he tends to combine work and something like Arendt's "action" fairly haphazardly - maybe only because I haven't read him in a while!). In the context here, I the coordinates of the might be well-posed by Arendt, but the conditions changed rather dramatically (in which for example, labour, work and action - a co-opted "action" in which even prominent political groups, in fact especially prominent political groups - are caught up).

Then there is the question of the complexity of bios, which gets a fairly shoddy treatment in both Arendt and Agamben (although he did write a rather interesting book on the animal - I much prefer this to Homo Sacer).

Another obvious problem is that the advance of neuroscience, and the deployment of cognitive psychology etc (whatever their benefits, and of course there are many) make it hard to see what freedom means. I mean this in a political environment in which our exercise of "freedom" is precisely the index of our submission to a form of "work" (in Arendt's terms). In short, this is a form of work that makes a complex technical system of our "action".

A final question here might concern the modern relation of the individual and the collective, that is so crucial to Arendt's concept of action (again in my limited understanding). I think perhaps Bernard Stiegler puts it well when he mourns the collapse of both the "we" and the "I" - those mutually defining entities that lie just beneath almost any form of political organization within modernity. A healthy and functioning (modern) we/I set-up seems essential to Arendt. It is this that is perhaps challenged by new networks - but then again I know almost nothing about her work, so it would be great to hear more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you like to say more? I don&#8217;t know much Arendt although I do know she worried about the blurring of work and labour (I guess Agamben would say the blurring of zoe and bios - although he tends to combine work and something like Arendt&#8217;s &#8220;action&#8221; fairly haphazardly - maybe only because I haven&#8217;t read him in a while!). In the context here, I the coordinates of the might be well-posed by Arendt, but the conditions changed rather dramatically (in which for example, labour, work and action - a co-opted &#8220;action&#8221; in which even prominent political groups, in fact especially prominent political groups - are caught up).</p>
<p>Then there is the question of the complexity of bios, which gets a fairly shoddy treatment in both Arendt and Agamben (although he did write a rather interesting book on the animal - I much prefer this to Homo Sacer).</p>
<p>Another obvious problem is that the advance of neuroscience, and the deployment of cognitive psychology etc (whatever their benefits, and of course there are many) make it hard to see what freedom means. I mean this in a political environment in which our exercise of &#8220;freedom&#8221; is precisely the index of our submission to a form of &#8220;work&#8221; (in Arendt&#8217;s terms). In short, this is a form of work that makes a complex technical system of our &#8220;action&#8221;.</p>
<p>A final question here might concern the modern relation of the individual and the collective, that is so crucial to Arendt&#8217;s concept of action (again in my limited understanding). I think perhaps Bernard Stiegler puts it well when he mourns the collapse of both the &#8220;we&#8221; and the &#8220;I&#8221; - those mutually defining entities that lie just beneath almost any form of political organization within modernity. A healthy and functioning (modern) we/I set-up seems essential to Arendt. It is this that is perhaps challenged by new networks - but then again I know almost nothing about her work, so it would be great to hear more.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can we survive dynamic, networked thought? Networked perceptions? The blurring of thought, perceptions and actions in dynamic networks? by wjacobr</title>
		<link>https://andrewmurphie.org/blog/?p=12#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>wjacobr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 00:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it time to revisit Hannah Arendt on work and labor?

http://jacobrussellsbarkingdog.blogspot.com</description>
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		<title>Comment on Can we survive dynamic, networked thought? Networked perceptions? The blurring of thought, perceptions and actions in dynamic networks? by Roughtheory.org &#187; Cultivating - and Surviving - Networks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roughtheory.org &#187; Cultivating - and Surviving - Networks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] models, the key question becomes what the impact of these shifts will be - the ibbertelsen&#8217;s own words: Whether any of this true, and which of the new models are right or wrong (scientifically), is up [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] models, the key question becomes what the impact of these shifts will be - the ibbertelsen&#8217;s own words: Whether any of this true, and which of the new models are right or wrong (scientifically), is up [&#8230;]</p>
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